[mou] Collared Dove-Marietta

[Steve Weston]

Eurasian Collard Doves are not native birds, and thus are not protected.  They would fall in the same category as Starlings
and House Sparrows and Mute Swans.

Interesting about the coloration of the Ringed Turtle Doves.  All the ones that I have seen have been almost pure white.  I
assumed that the only non-white RTD's would be ferral populations from breeding escapees. I did not say that Ringed Turtle
Doves are always white.  I did imply that you are not likely to see anything but white Ringed Turtle Doves in Minnesota.
>From what I have heard and seen, the RTD's tend to stay in the neighborhood where they have escaped.  While they have bred
in some of the southern cities, the pair I observed in Minnesota did not fledge young and may not have nested.

by the way, where did you see the darker RTD's?

Steve Weston on Quigley Lake in Eagan
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From: "Dennis/Barbara Martin" <dbmartin@skypoint.com>
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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 11:31 PM
Subject: [mou] Collared Dove-Marietta


> Found a single Eurasian Collared-dove in Marietta today.  Bird was on a wire
> one half block south of the American Legion.
>
> This was a typical bird.  Larger than Mourning Dove,  medium gray all over,
> with a white bottom to the square tail and black outer tail feathers on the
> bottom side of the tail.  When identifying these birds you need to see all
> of these features and others shown in the field guides to avoid confusion
> with Ringed Turtle Doves.  Someone said the other day that RTDs are always
> white.  That is not true.  We have seen an RTD that was not the bright white
> bird that we have observed in captivity.  While this bird was definately
> lighter that the typical ECD it was not white at all.
>
> Also it does not make sense to us to differentiate between birds likely to
> be seen in the larger metro areas and the birds that are starting to slowly
> populate all the counties in western Minnesota.  Birds fly.  That is the
> part that makes this so interesting.  You never know where a species will
> show up next.
>
> A larger concern will be hybrids.  The latest issue of North American Birds
> has a photograph of a hybrid Mourning/Eurasian Collared-dove from
> Memphis,Tennessee.  While this particular photograph is hard to get a great
> idea of all the id marks it is important to remember that hybrids can draw
> just about any of their traits from either parent.
>
> Anyone know if hunters can shoot ECDs also?  And also if there is not a
> season on ECDs can we charge a hunter who shoots a hybrid or a ECD with
> breaking the law?  You know the DNR enforcement officers won't do anything
> about this as they won't know the ID marks.
>
> Dennis and Barbara Martin
> dbmartin@skypoint.com
>
>
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