[mou] Re: [mnbird] Jim and John Fitzpatrick give talk -
Ron Windingstad
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Mon, 8 Aug 2005 08:40:16 -0500
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Sorry I missed Dr Fitzpatrick's talk - but am looking forward to hearing =
another of the Ivory-billed woodpeckers search team, Bobby Harrison, at =
the Midwest Birding Symposium in Mid October at the Midwest West Birding =
Symposium in the Quad Cities! =
http://www.visitquadcities.com/2004/for_visitors/midwest_birding.html<htt=
p://www.visitquadcities.com/2004/for_visitors/midwest_birding.html>
And our own Laura Erickson will also be one of the many other =
speakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ron Windingstad
Cottage Grove, MN
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From: Laura Erickson<mailto:bluejay@lauraerickson.com>=20
To: mnbird<mailto:mnbird@lists.mnbird.net> ; =
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Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 8:50 PM
Subject: [mnbird] Jim and John Fitzpatrick give talk
Last night I went to the Carpenter Nature Center annual members and=20
volunteers banquet. The invited speaker, John Fitzpatrick, spoke =
about the=20
Ivory-billed Woodpecker and his brother, Jim, who was one of the =
search=20
team members who saw one of the reported birds, described his own=20
sighting. John showed the "Luneau" video--the whole part where they =
were=20
approaching the bird, and then slowed it down (this footage, by the =
way, is=20
out on DVD now) and also played a few of the recordings they are in =
the=20
process of analyzing. Some really are tantalizing--I can't think of=20
anything else that could have made the "kent" calls except possibly a =
Blue=20
Jay with an Arkansas accent--but to be honest, I really can't imagine =
one=20
doing such a perfect imitation without having heard the real thing a=20
LOT. Blue Jay imitations seem, in my experience with them in the =
midwest,=20
to be based on sounds that are heard frequently or involve some sort =
of=20
extraordinary, maybe stress-producing, event. I would love to hear=20
anyone's recording of a non-captive Blue Jay (or even a captive Blue =
Jay?)=20
making these "kent" calls.
John also played a few of the "double knocks." One of those =
recordings=20
included two sets of double knocks, one much louder than the other. =
I'm=20
not at all convinced that was two birds--I've heard Downy and Pileated =
drums that were louder, and then softer, as the bird changed =
orientation in=20
the same tree, and since these recordings were from remotes, with no =
one=20
seeing the birds producing the sounds, I can't be certain about this.
I can't wait till the AOU meeting in Santa Barbara at the end of the =
month,=20
which I will be attending. The search team is presenting four papers, =
with=20
detailed analyses of the recordings, videos, and sight records. It=20
promises to be most enlightening.
Anyway, I've posted this on my blog today, along with some interesting =
links, one by a skeptic, and also how to get the DVD of the Luneau =
video.
http://www.birderblog.com/<http://www.birderblog.com/>
Laura Erickson
Duluth, MN
www.birderblog.com<http://www.birderblog.com/>
There is symbolic as well as actual beauty in the migration of=20
birds. There is something infinitely healing in the repeated refrains =
of=20
nature--the assurance that dawn comes after night, and spring after =
the winter.
--Rachel Carson
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<DIV>Sorry I missed Dr Fitzpatrick's talk - but am looking forward to =
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another of the Ivory-billed woodpeckers search team, Bobby Harrison, at =
the=20
Midwest Birding Symposium in Mid October at the Midwest West Birding =
Symposium=20
in the Quad Cities! <A=20
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html=20
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<DIV>And our own Laura Erickson will also be one of the many other=20
speakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</DIV>
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<DIV>Ron Windingstad</DIV>
<DIV>Cottage Grove, MN</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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href=3D"mailto:bluejay@lauraerickson.com">Laura Erickson</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [mnbird] Jim and John=20
Fitzpatrick give talk</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Last night I went to the Carpenter Nature Center annual =
members=20
and <BR>volunteers banquet. The invited speaker, John =
Fitzpatrick, spoke=20
about the <BR>Ivory-billed Woodpecker and his brother, Jim, who was =
one of the=20
search <BR>team members who saw one of the reported birds, described =
his own=20
<BR>sighting. John showed the "Luneau" video--the whole part =
where they=20
were <BR>approaching the bird, and then slowed it down (this footage, =
by the=20
way, is <BR>out on DVD now) and also played a few of the recordings =
they are=20
in the <BR>process of analyzing. Some really are tantalizing--I =
can't=20
think of <BR>anything else that could have made the "kent" calls =
except=20
possibly a Blue <BR>Jay with an Arkansas accent--but to be honest, I =
really=20
can't imagine one <BR>doing such a perfect imitation without having =
heard the=20
real thing a <BR>LOT. Blue Jay imitations seem, in my experience =
with=20
them in the midwest, <BR>to be based on sounds that are heard =
frequently or=20
involve some sort of <BR>extraordinary, maybe stress-producing, =
event. I=20
would love to hear <BR>anyone's recording of a non-captive Blue Jay =
(or even a=20
captive Blue Jay?) <BR>making these "kent" calls.<BR><BR>John also =
played a=20
few of the "double knocks." One of those recordings <BR>included =
two=20
sets of double knocks, one much louder than the other. I'm =
<BR>not at=20
all convinced that was two birds--I've heard Downy and Pileated =
<BR>drums that=20
were louder, and then softer, as the bird changed orientation in =
<BR>the same=20
tree, and since these recordings were from remotes, with no one =
<BR>seeing the=20
birds producing the sounds, I can't be certain about this.<BR><BR>I =
can't wait=20
till the AOU meeting in Santa Barbara at the end of the month, =
<BR>which I=20
will be attending. The search team is presenting four papers, =
with=20
<BR>detailed analyses of the recordings, videos, and sight =
records. It=20
<BR>promises to be most enlightening.<BR><BR>Anyway, I've posted this =
on my=20
blog today, along with some interesting <BR>links, one by a skeptic, =
and also=20
how to get the DVD of the Luneau video.<BR><BR><A=20
title=3Dhttp://www.birderblog.com/=20
=
href=3D"http://www.birderblog.com/">http://www.birderblog.com/</A><BR><BR=
><BR>Laura=20
Erickson<BR>Duluth, MN<BR><BR><BR><A =
title=3Dhttp://www.birderblog.com/=20
href=3D"http://www.birderblog.com">www.birderblog.com</A><BR><BR>There =
is=20
symbolic as well as actual beauty in the migration of <BR>birds. =
There=20
is something infinitely healing in the repeated refrains of =
<BR>nature--the=20
assurance that dawn comes after night, and spring after the=20
=
winter.<BR><BR> &nbs=
p;  =
; =20
--Rachel=20
=
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