[mou] Finch Forecast Question

Larson Kelly northernflights@charter.net
Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:35:09 -0600 

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Liis and others,
     When you are feeling an abundance of Winter finches, please send  
some my way!
I've been asking my customers for finch reports and unlike the North  
Shore we have yet to see more than a handful. Only a couple people  
have reported seeing a few Redpoll mixed in with their Goldfinch. No  
Pine Siskin, Grosbeak or Crossbill! It is perplexing why folks  
farther South in the Twin Cities area are receiving visits from  
Winter finches while our feeders to the North remain empty.
But...our area has just experienced one of the driest Summers since  
the 1930's! http://climate.umn.edu/doc/journal/ 
drought_situation_report_2006.htm
It makes sense that seed crop production would be negatively affected  
by drought conditions. On the other hand, some plants (and mushrooms)  
produce more fruit when under stress.

Kelly Larson
Bemidji Minnesota

Northern Flights Wild Bird Store
Just 96 miles from the Canadian border!
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On Nov 3, 2006, at 4:23 PM, Liis Veelma wrote:

> Hello all
>
> The conditions in NW Ontario--where most likely the Minnesota northern
> finches come from as well as Manitoba-- normally differ from those in
> the NE parts of Ontario. For example, on a trip in the fall of 2005, I
> noted that mountain ash berries were abundant around the north edge of
> Lake Superior, while the reports from those parts that supply southern
> Ontario with winter finches indicated almost nonexistent supplies. I
> even got to observe Herring and Ring-billed Gulls hovering to pluck
> the berries! The Ontario forecast for the winter of 2005-06
> definitely did not apply to SE Manitoba--we got very few winter  
> finches.
>
> This year is different in SE Manitoba. Judging by the numbers and
> early arrival of Redpolls--mostly Common but also some Hoaries--the
> birch seed crop north of us must be bad. We've also had early and
> even urban Pine Grosbeaks. So Minnesota may get good winter  
> finching this winter.
>
> Liis Veelma
> Winnipeg, MB
>
>
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unlike the North Shore we have yet to see more than a handful. Only a =
couple people have reported seeing a few Redpoll mixed in with their =
Goldfinch.=A0No Pine Siskin, Grosbeak or Crossbill! It is perplexing why =
folks farther South in the Twin Cities area are=A0receiving visits from =
Winter finches while our feeders to the North remain =
empty.</DIV><DIV>But...our area has just experienced one of the driest =
Summers since the 1930's! <A =
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Veelma wrote:</DIV><BR class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE =
type=3D"cite"><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hello all</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">The =
conditions in NW Ontario--where most likely the Minnesota =
northern</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">finches come from as well as =
Manitoba-- normally differ from those in</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the NE =
parts of Ontario. For example, on a trip in the fall of 2005, =
I</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; ">noted that mountain ash berries were abundant =
around the north edge of</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Lake =
Superior, while the reports from those parts that supply =
southern</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Ontario with winter finches =
indicated almost nonexistent supplies. I</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">even got =
to observe Herring and Ring-billed Gulls hovering to pluck</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">the berries! The Ontario forecast for the winter of =
2005-06</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">definitely did not apply to SE =
Manitoba--we got very few winter finches.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">This year is =
different in SE Manitoba. Judging by the numbers and</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">early arrival of Redpolls--mostly Common but also =
some Hoaries--the</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">birch seed crop north of us must =
be bad. We've also had early and</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">even urban =
Pine Grosbeaks. So Minnesota may get good winter finching this =
winter.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Liis Veelma</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
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