[mou] religion, money, sex, and, now, birding?

[Sharon Stiteler]

LOL, Jim!

Okay, I thought all the disagreement and discussion was part of the  
fun.  And honestly, if people think this birding listserv is hostile,  
they should take a look at some of the other state bird listservs.   
I've yet to see profanity show up here.  We've got pretty good--not  
perfect, but who has that?

I think we encourage discussion and disagreement, but the key is to  
not take it personally.  If you're going ask questions, don't be  
upset when you get answers if they aren't what you want to hear.  So,  
if the records committee finds your sighting unacceptable?  Repeat to  
yourself, "It's not me, it's my documentation."  You report a chukar  
and people on the listservs tell you it's not countable on an  
official list?  Take a big shrug and enjoy the fact that you saw an  
escaped bird attempting to stake a claim in the wild.  You saw an  
ivory-billed woodpecker at Weaver Dunes and no one believes you?   
Don't sweat it, we still love you anyway.

Sharon





On Aug 14, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Jim Williams wrote:

>  Are we to add birding and its many avenues to that list of things  
> one supposedly cannot discuss without risk of offense? Is it to be  
> religion, money, sex, and birding?
>
> Good grief!
>
> Jim Williams
> Wayzata
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> On Aug 14, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Richard Wood wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> Pastor Al seems, IMO, to be bent on taking this list's discussions  
> into areas that get people yelled at and called names by other  
> users of the list.  I, for one, don't think that is necessarily a  
> good thing to have happen.
>
> I don't think he does it on purpose, and I enjoy it when he does,  
> but frankly, most people don't like those of us that question  
> things (we come off as being critical?), and I think all it does it  
> cause a lot of trouble and lead to (potential) hurt feelings.
>
> Take the recent discussion on record keeping, for example.  I  
> wouldn't have voluntarily written about my "angst" toward the  
> record keepers, but when Al posted, I replied, and it led to a big  
> brehawa.  I was called by one person, whom shall remain nameless, a  
> "troublemaker", when I don't think  I am.  A member of the MOU  
> called me "critical", which again, I don't think I am.  I do  
> question things, because I am a scientist.
>
> My point is that we need to think seriously about when we post  
> forays into "controversial" areas.  Does one want to post a note  
> that is going to make others dislike each other, probably not. But  
> we should all ask ourselves that each time we post a "question" to  
> others on a list such as this.  Do you really want to create a  
> situation (even unknowingly) where others will almost literally be  
> at each other's throats?
>
> Good birding,
> Richard
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>
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> Richard L. Wood, Ph. D.
> Hastings, MN
> rwoodphd at yahoo.com
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>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Sharon Stiteler <birdchick at gmail.com>
> To: Pastor Al Schirmacher <pastoral at princetonfreechurch.net>
> Cc: mnbird at lists.mnbird.net; mou-net at moumn.org
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 1:44:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [mou] [mnbird] Suspicious Birds
>
> Greater Roadrunner.
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> Sharon Stiteler
> www.birdchick.com
> Minneapolis, MN
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> On Aug 14, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Pastor Al Schirmacher wrote:
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>> John & Chris' posts bring up a question - besides Chukars and  
>> Northern Bobwhites, what other birds would arouse your (escapee/ 
>> release/too soon to be counted) suspicions in the state?
>>
>> Al Schirmacher
>> Princeton, MN
>> Mille Lacs & Sherburne Counties
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