[mou] Re: [mnbird] FW: Ornithologists

[Chris Fagyal]

The anecdote doesn't make sense anyways, though the person probably just 
mixed around the details, because there are 2 official state records for 
GLOSSY IBIS, and we have White-faced Ibis reported nearly every year in 
Minnesota.  We certainly have a lot more than 2 state records of 
White-faced Ibis.   I'm sure Laura's version is probably more accurate 
with the appropriate birds.

Laura Erickson wrote:
> I think the true story was that a Pomerine Jaeger was seen flying 
> between the two states--it was sometime in the 80s.  Kim Eckert and I, 
> and maybe Mike Hendrickson, wrote it up--Mike drew a picture of the 
> tail.  But the tail feathers didn't stick out very far, and although 
> they were quite rounded at the tip, the Wis committee thought it was 
> at least possible that the feathers had broken off and could have worn 
> in a rounded pattern.  (At the time, there weren't the books available 
> with such detailed descriptions as are available now.)  The MOU 
> committee accepted it as a Pomerine, perhaps influenced at least a bit 
> by Kim's great knowledge and experience with both species. (Pomerine 
> was a lifer for me.)   At first the Wisconsin committee counted it as 
> Parasitic, but I believe they changed that to Jaeger spp.
>
> Laura Erickson
>
> On 3/1/07, *Mark Mulhollam* <mulho005@tc.umn.edu 
> <mailto:mulho005@tc.umn.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Is the below true or just a good story?
>
>     Mark Mulhollam
>     Minneapolis, Minnesota
>     http://www.tc.umn.edu/~mulho005 <http://www.tc.umn.edu/%7Emulho005>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: National Birding Hotline Cooperative (Chat Line)
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>     <mailto:BIRDCHAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>]On Behalf Of JIM TURNER
>     Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 5:41 PM
>     To: BIRDCHAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
>     <mailto:BIRDCHAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
>     Subject: Rd: Ornithologists
>
>
>     I was told this anecdote while birding in Duluth, and cannot vouch
>     for its
>     truthfulness.  In any case, my memory would mangle the details
>     worse, and
>     my apologies to anyone whose toes get stepped on.  But here goes.
>        It seems that a dark Ibis was seen byt birders in both Duluth and
>     Superior, which made at least one pass between Wisconsin and
>     Minnesota, in
>     view by all the whole time.  Competent birders disputed whether it
>     was a
>     Glossy or a White-faced, and finally agreed on the former, anbd
>     submitted
>     their documentation to both states.  Minnesota's Ornithological
>     Society
>     disputed it, and on the basis of a single prior sighthing of a
>     White-faced
>     at the opposite corner of the state, concluded that it was the second
>     state record of a White-faced, .  Wisconsin, being further east,
>     agreed
>     that Glossy was more probable, and admitted it as a first state
>     record.
>     So the same individual bird, seen at the same time in two states,
>     has now
>     become a precedent for future acceptance of records of two different
>     species in two different states.
>
>
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