[mou] Shorebird ID help

[Shari LaFleur]

Maybe swearing is not the best way to emphasize a point...especially 
with a ""young birder"".  Personally I find that
word totally offensive !!!!

Shari LaFleur

Michael Hendrickson wrote:
>
>  Al Shirmacher asked a simple question to see if anyone could help 
> with a shorebird identification based on Nathan's photos.  Lets not 
> get bitchy about it!  Instead lets answer the question and be a little 
> more positive so other young birders like Nathan feel comfortable 
> about asking ID questions on the MOU listserv.
>
>  
>
> "Since this picture appears to show a bird about the same size and
> with the same bill as the identified Stilt Sandpipers what makes you 
> think
> that it is anything different?"
>
>  
>
> What makes you think it is a Stilt Sandpiper?  To me based on 
> appearance the mystery shorebird looks like a profile of a Pectoral 
> Sandpiper.  Short neck and a dumpy appearance.  The bill to me does 
> not look long enough to be a dowitcher sp. or a Dunlin.  So I am 
> comfortable calling it a Pectoral Sandpiper.  I based this ID on 
> zooming the photo up on my screen.
>
>  
>
> "Pictures are needed to support the identification of a given bird.  
> Since
> you gave no information as to what you observed in the field  or what you
> think the species is then the picture is of no value in determining the
> species. "
>
>  
>
> Not true.  A quick example: in the ABA "Birding" in the back pages 
> there is a photo quiz with photos just like these and birders can make 
> accurate identification based on these type of photos.  Many of them 
> are not ornithologists (-;
>
>  
>
> Also most of my records I turned into to MOURC do not have photos 
> attach to them. Also many of current members & past members of MOURC 
> do not have photos attach to their bird report/documentation reports.  
> Its just in the past few years with the age of digitial photography 
> why you see more records with digital photos attach to documentation 
> reports but before that many many top birders in Minn. did not have 
> photos clipped to theirr written reports they sent in to MOURC.  A lot 
> of reports were based on written statements and also some drawings.
>
>  
>
> Mike Hendrickson
> Duluth, Minnesota
> Website: http://webpages.charter.net/mmhendrickson/
> Blog: http://colderbythelakebirding.blogspot.com/
>  
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