[mou] Fie on Photographers
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"I could be wrong, but I'm certain that I'm not, Must have ? thought I =
saw ?" You seem to making a lot of assumptions here, but I'm not hearing =
any facts. Did you stop and inquire? I have seen bad behavior from =
birders as much or more then from photographers, even guided bird trips =
where birders all get out a put their point and shoots in the owls face.
How do you know that the photographer put a mouse on the shoulder? I =
have seen many owls take Meadow Voles from the shoulder, that's why they =
hunt near roads. The photographer may have just been an observer, like =
you.
"their monstrous lenses and total disrespect for other birders and the =
birds." You sound like you resent their lenses, equipment and mere =
presence ? " their total disrespect" ?? , I don't understand this at =
all.=20
These photographers are usually nature lovers, naturalists and birders. =
They are no better or worse then the general birding public. If this how =
we are reporting bad behavior by photographers, no wonder that there are =
so many reports. Factual reporting is fine, but this sounds like a =
personal tirade.=20
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From: "Tom Auer" <mthomasauer@gmail.com>
To: <mou-net@cbs.umn.edu>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:43 PM
Subject: [mou] Fie on Photographers
> Up in Sax-Zim today, I saw a photographer almost cost a Great Gray Owl
> it's life. I could be wrong, but I'm darn certain that I'm not.
>=20
> We were on Arkola Rd, heading out of the bog, when we saw a white car
> pulled precariously over on the road. Arkola, which doesn't have much
> shoulder, sees a good bit of traffic as well. When we came in line
> with the car, we saw that this photographer must have put a mouse on
> the shoulder for a GGOW, because the bird took off as we passed and
> was clutching a clump full of grass (I thought I saw a mouse tail).
> Luckily for the bird, because we were birders,we slowed way down and
> swerved out of the way, but if it had been a fast moving local, this
> bird would have been dead. Seconds later the plow zoomed by and would
> have gotten the bird if we hadn't driven by first?
>=20
> This is the first time that I've seen this atrocity, but how can these
> photographers do this on these roads? Haven't they been warned? They
> have no ethics and they have no respect for the birds and I have only
> spite for them. I'm tired of seeing them out on HWY7, with their
> monstrous lenses and total disrespect for other birders and the birds.
> There's been a lot of bad behavior by photographers this year. What a
> bunch of selfish bastards.
>=20
> Tom Auer
> Duluth, MN
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"<EM>I could be wrong, but I'm certain that I'm =
not, =20
Must have ? thought I saw</EM> ?" You seem to making a lot of =
assumptions=20
here, but I'm not hearing any facts. Did you stop and =
inquire? =20
I have seen bad behavior from birders as much or more then from =
photographers,=20
even guided bird trips where birders all get out a put their point and =
shoots in=20
the owls face.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>How do you know that the photographer put a mouse on =
the=20
shoulder? I have seen many owls take Meadow Voles from the =
shoulder,=20
that's why they hunt near roads. The photographer may have just =
been an=20
observer, like you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><EM>"their monstrous lenses and total disrespect for =
other=20
birders and the birds." </EM>You sound like you resent =
their=20
lenses, equipment and mere presence ? " <EM>their total=20
disrespect"</EM> <EM>??</EM> <EM>,</EM> I don't understand =
this at=20
all. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>These photographers are usually nature lovers,=20
naturalists and birders. They are no better or worse then the =
general=20
birding public. If this how we are reporting <EM>bad behavior</EM> =
by=20
photographers, no wonder that there are so many=20
reports. Factual reporting is fine, but this =
sounds like=20
a personal tirade. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><EM></EM></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>From: "Tom Auer" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:mthomasauer@gmail.com"><FONT=20
size=3D2>mthomasauer@gmail.com</FONT></A><FONT =
size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>To: <</FONT><A =
href=3D"mailto:mou-net@cbs.umn.edu"><FONT=20
size=3D2>mou-net@cbs.umn.edu</FONT></A><FONT size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:43 PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Subject: [mou] Fie on =
Photographers</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D2>> Up in Sax-Zim =
today, I saw=20
a photographer almost cost a Great Gray Owl<BR>> it's life. I could =
be wrong,=20
but I'm darn certain that I'm not.<BR>> <BR>> We were on Arkola =
Rd,=20
heading out of the bog, when we saw a white car<BR>> pulled =
precariously over=20
on the road. Arkola, which doesn't have much<BR>> shoulder, sees a =
good bit=20
of traffic as well. When we came in line<BR>> with the car, we saw =
that this=20
photographer must have put a mouse on<BR>> the shoulder for a GGOW, =
because=20
the bird took off as we passed and<BR>> was clutching a clump full of =
grass=20
(I thought I saw a mouse tail).<BR>> Luckily for the bird, because we =
were=20
birders,we slowed way down and<BR>> swerved out of the way, but if it =
had=20
been a fast moving local, this<BR>> bird would have been dead. =
Seconds later=20
the plow zoomed by and would<BR>> have gotten the bird if we hadn't =
driven by=20
first?<BR>> <BR>> This is the first time that I've seen this =
atrocity, but=20
how can these<BR>> photographers do this on these roads? Haven't they =
been=20
warned? They<BR>> have no ethics and they have no respect for the =
birds and I=20
have only<BR>> spite for them. I'm tired of seeing them out on HWY7, =
with=20
their<BR>> monstrous lenses and total disrespect for other birders =
and the=20
birds.<BR>> There's been a lot of bad behavior by photographers this =
year.=20
What a<BR>> bunch of selfish bastards.<BR>> <BR>> Tom =
Auer<BR>>=20
Duluth, MN<BR>> =
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