[mou] Fie on Photographers
Steve Roman
decke003@maroon.tc.umn.edu
Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:52:18 -0600
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My signature was inadvertently left off my last reply message to MOU =
list serve which as sent through decke00@umn.edu
So I am adding it here.
Steve Roman
Champlin, MN
decke003@umn.edu
Birder and Photographer
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From: decke003@umn.edu=20
To: Tom Auer ; mou-net@cbs.umn.edu=20
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [mou] Fie on Photographers
"I could be wrong, but I'm certain that I'm not, Must have ? thought =
I saw ?" You seem to making a lot of assumptions here, but I'm not =
hearing any facts. Did you stop and inquire? I have seen bad behavior =
from birders as much or more then from photographers, even guided bird =
trips where birders all get out a put their point and shoots in the owls =
face.
How do you know that the photographer put a mouse on the shoulder? I =
have seen many owls take Meadow Voles from the shoulder, that's why they =
hunt near roads. The photographer may have just been an observer, like =
you.
"their monstrous lenses and total disrespect for other birders and the =
birds." You sound like you resent their lenses, equipment and mere =
presence ? " their total disrespect" ?? , I don't understand this at =
all.=20
These photographers are usually nature lovers, naturalists and =
birders. They are no better or worse then the general birding public. =
If this how we are reporting bad behavior by photographers, no wonder =
that there are so many reports. Factual reporting is fine, but this =
sounds like a personal tirade.=20
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From: "Tom Auer" <mthomasauer@gmail.com>
To: <mou-net@cbs.umn.edu>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:43 PM
Subject: [mou] Fie on Photographers
> Up in Sax-Zim today, I saw a photographer almost cost a Great Gray =
Owl
> it's life. I could be wrong, but I'm darn certain that I'm not.
>=20
> We were on Arkola Rd, heading out of the bog, when we saw a white =
car
> pulled precariously over on the road. Arkola, which doesn't have =
much
> shoulder, sees a good bit of traffic as well. When we came in line
> with the car, we saw that this photographer must have put a mouse on
> the shoulder for a GGOW, because the bird took off as we passed and
> was clutching a clump full of grass (I thought I saw a mouse tail).
> Luckily for the bird, because we were birders,we slowed way down and
> swerved out of the way, but if it had been a fast moving local, this
> bird would have been dead. Seconds later the plow zoomed by and =
would
> have gotten the bird if we hadn't driven by first?
>=20
> This is the first time that I've seen this atrocity, but how can =
these
> photographers do this on these roads? Haven't they been warned? They
> have no ethics and they have no respect for the birds and I have =
only
> spite for them. I'm tired of seeing them out on HWY7, with their
> monstrous lenses and total disrespect for other birders and the =
birds.
> There's been a lot of bad behavior by photographers this year. What =
a
> bunch of selfish bastards.
>=20
> Tom Auer
> Duluth, MN
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>My signature was inadvertently left off my last =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>So I am adding it here.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Steve Roman<BR>Champlin, MN<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:decke003@umn.edu">decke003@umn.edu</A></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Birder and Photographer</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Ddecke003@maroon.tc.umn.edu=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmthomasauer@gmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:mthomasauer@gmail.com">Tom Auer</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dmou-net@cbs.umn.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:mou-net@cbs.umn.edu">mou-net@cbs.umn.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 27, 2005 =
10:31=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [mou] Fie on=20
Photographers</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"<EM>I could be wrong, but I'm certain that I'm =
not, =20
Must have ? thought I saw</EM> ?" You seem to making a lot of=20
assumptions here, but I'm not hearing any facts. Did you stop =
and=20
inquire? I have seen bad behavior from birders as much or =
more=20
then from photographers, even guided bird trips where birders all get =
out a=20
put their point and shoots in the owls face.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>How do you know that the photographer put a mouse =
on the=20
shoulder? I have seen many owls take Meadow Voles from the =
shoulder,=20
that's why they hunt near roads. The photographer may have just =
been an=20
observer, like you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><EM>"their monstrous lenses and total disrespect =
for other=20
birders and the birds." </EM>You sound like =
you resent their=20
lenses, equipment and mere presence ? " <EM>their total=20
disrespect"</EM> <EM>??</EM> <EM>,</EM> I don't understand =
this at=20
all. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>These photographers are usually nature =
lovers,=20
naturalists and birders. They are no better or worse then the =
general=20
birding public. If this how we are reporting <EM>bad =
behavior</EM> by=20
photographers, no wonder that there are so many=20
reports. Factual reporting is fine, but this =
sounds=20
like a personal tirade. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><EM></EM></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>From: "Tom Auer" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:mthomasauer@gmail.com"><FONT=20
size=3D2>mthomasauer@gmail.com</FONT></A><FONT =
size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>To: <</FONT><A =
href=3D"mailto:mou-net@cbs.umn.edu"><FONT=20
size=3D2>mou-net@cbs.umn.edu</FONT></A><FONT =
size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:43 =
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Subject: [mou] Fie on =
Photographers</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D2>> Up in Sax-Zim =
today, I=20
saw a photographer almost cost a Great Gray Owl<BR>> it's life. I =
could be=20
wrong, but I'm darn certain that I'm not.<BR>> <BR>> We were on =
Arkola=20
Rd, heading out of the bog, when we saw a white car<BR>> pulled=20
precariously over on the road. Arkola, which doesn't have much<BR>> =
shoulder, sees a good bit of traffic as well. When we came in =
line<BR>>=20
with the car, we saw that this photographer must have put a mouse =
on<BR>>=20
the shoulder for a GGOW, because the bird took off as we passed =
and<BR>>=20
was clutching a clump full of grass (I thought I saw a mouse =
tail).<BR>>=20
Luckily for the bird, because we were birders,we slowed way down =
and<BR>>=20
swerved out of the way, but if it had been a fast moving local, =
this<BR>>=20
bird would have been dead. Seconds later the plow zoomed by and =
would<BR>>=20
have gotten the bird if we hadn't driven by first?<BR>> <BR>> =
This is=20
the first time that I've seen this atrocity, but how can these<BR>> =
photographers do this on these roads? Haven't they been warned? =
They<BR>>=20
have no ethics and they have no respect for the birds and I have =
only<BR>>=20
spite for them. I'm tired of seeing them out on HWY7, with =
their<BR>>=20
monstrous lenses and total disrespect for other birders and the =
birds.<BR>>=20
There's been a lot of bad behavior by photographers this year. What =
a<BR>>=20
bunch of selfish bastards.<BR>> <BR>> Tom Auer<BR>> Duluth,=20
MN<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> =
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