[mou] Fie on Photographers

Ron Green rongreen@charter.net
Mon, 28 Feb 2005 06:39:57 -0600


As a suggestion, I think at this juncture, Tom Auer's post below should be
ignored. Since I am new to this forum (less than 6 months), I apologize if I
am speaking out of school. However, based on my observations, it seems that
the purpose here is to pass along information on birding that is both
informative and educational, and to do so at a professional level? Only
rarely, have I seen emotional outburst such as Tom's. The use of this forum
to vent and make gross and rash assertions seem to conflict with what I have
observed as its rudimentary purpose. And, by given those kinds of inputs
undue attention, it tends to encourage the behavior behind them, as well as
degrade and compete with the objectives being normally practised here. Just
my observations and suggestions.

Ron Green
http://www.greensphotoimages.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Terence Brashear" <birdnird@yahoo.com>
To: <mou-net@cbs.umn.edu>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [mou] Fie on Photographers


> I need to answer to this recent post........
>
> I've been watching birds since I was five, I have been
> a photographer since I was about 14 years old, I also
> have a degree in natural resources specializing in
> avian conservation. I take huge offense to comments
> like Tom's.  Yes, I have a big lens, but I also have a
> big understanding of how I impact birds.
>
> Birders and photographers alike can exhibit bad
> behavior.  Please do not make broad statements about
> photographers bad behavior when the same can be said
> about birders too.
>
> If you need proof, I'll revisit behavior exhibited by
> birders in Texas when a Collared Forest Falcon showed
> up.  Birders trampled through huge expanses of rare
> and endangered habitat chasing after a bird and never
> let it rest.  Also, there have been recent photos on
> websites that show "birders" with point and shoot
> cameras capturing images of rare birds at close range;
> i.e. boreal owl.
>
> No disrespect intended, but to label photographers as
> a whole is just downright wrong. In my 35 years of
> birding I have seen bad behavior on both sides.
>
> Regards,
>
> Terry
> Ornithologists AND photographer
>
>
>
> >I'm tired of seeing them out on
> > HWY7, with their
> > monstrous lenses and total disrespect for other
> > birders and the birds.
> > There's been a lot of bad behavior by photographers
> > this year. What a
> > bunch of selfish bastards.
> >
> > Tom Auer
> > Duluth, MN
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