[mnbird] Re: [mou] Why two lists?
Alt, Mark
Mark.Alt@bestbuy.com
Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:56:15 -0600
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While I respect Steve greatly, I believe he misrepresents the goal of
MOU-net, yet he may represent very factually the actual usage of
MOU-net. The MOU wants to function as a conduit for all bird related
interests in the state and as such, we should welcome and be involved
with new birders and less than avid birders. We do not strive to
maintain the elitist image we are saddled with, and we aspire to reach
out to birders in every way possible. The MOU-net is one way to do that.
MN Bird is a great list-server and MOU-net grew directly out of it,
perhaps we can grow back to being more like MN-Bird, but I still feel
personally, we are better off with 2. The description of MOU-net on the
web page is changed now to reflect our more general interests. I look
forward to using both list-servers for a very long time.
Mark Alt=20
MOU President
mark.alt@bestbuy.com=20
C/O J. F. Bell Museum of Natural History=20
University of Minnesota=20
10 Church Street SE=20
Minneapolis, MN 55455-0104=20
MOU.mn.org=20
=20
________________________________
From: mnbird-admin@lists.mnbird.net
[mailto:mnbird-admin@lists.mnbird.net] On Behalf Of Steve Weston
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:57 AM
To: cncole@earthlink.net; MNbird
Subject: [mnbird] Re: [mou] Why two lists?
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Mou-net is for postings that would be of interest for serious birder. I
post to MOU-Net sightings of unusual birds, the newsletter and meetings
of MRVAC (Minnesota River Valley Audubon Chapter), and very little else.
I post to MNbird any Mou-net post plus posts that might be of interest
to the wider community of birders. For example I might post to MNbird
the results of a frog survey and how to recognize the calls of the frogs
found. These natural observations would not be welcomed and would be
off topic for MOU-net. While some listers are put off by the attempts
of the MOU-net to keep the focus narrow and on topic, that is the
mission of the list serve. New birders should join MN-bird, which
welcomes inexperienced observations and questions. The posts of those
birders who choose to join only MOU-net, will be fowarded to MN-bird by
monitors who watch for such posts of interest.
=20
Steve Weston on Quigley Lake in Eagan=20
sweston2@comcast.net =20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Chuck Cole <mailto:cncole@earthlink.net> =20
To: MNbird <mailto:mnbird@lists.mnbird.net> ; MOU
<mailto:mou-net@cbs.umn.edu> =20
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:43 AM
Subject: [mou] Why two lists?
=20
Seems really silly to have two lists and most folks making
double posts. Since the double posting seems so regular, the old
political split or whatever must be quite stale by now. Is there any
good reason to continue double postings? Why not rig one list to be an
active standby in case the other one fails? ... or make sure every
message gets copied so we only need to see them once.
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Chuck =20
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>While I respect Steve greatly, I =
believe he
misrepresents the goal of MOU-net, yet he may represent very factually =
the actual
usage of MOU-net. The MOU wants to function as a conduit for all bird =
related
interests in the state and as such, we should welcome and be involved =
with new
birders and less than avid birders. We do not strive to maintain the =
elitist
image we are saddled with, and we aspire to reach out to birders in =
every way
possible. The MOU-net is one way to do that. MN Bird is a great
list-server and MOU-net grew directly out of it, perhaps we can grow =
back to
being more like MN-Bird, but I still feel personally, we are better off =
with 2.
The description of MOU-net on the web page is changed now to reflect our =
more
general interests. I look forward to using both list-servers for a very =
long
time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Century Gothic"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Century Gothic";color:navy'>Mark Alt</span></font><font
color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'> <br>
MOU President<br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Century Gothic"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century =
Gothic";color:navy'>mark.alt@bestbuy.com</span></font><font
color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'> <br>
C/O J. F. Bell Museum of Natural History <br>
University of <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:State =
w:st=3D"on">Minnesota</st1:State></st1:place>
<br>
10 <st1:address w:st=3D"on"><st1:Street w:st=3D"on">Church Street =
SE</st1:Street> <br>
<st1:City w:st=3D"on">Minneapolis</st1:City>, <st1:State =
w:st=3D"on">MN</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode w:st=3D"on">55455-0104</st1:PostalCode></st1:address> =
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MOU.mn.org <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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n></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
mnbird-admin@lists.mnbird.net
[mailto:mnbird-admin@lists.mnbird.net] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Steve =
Weston</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 24, =
2005
1:57 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> cncole@earthlink.net; =
MNbird<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [mnbird] Re: =
[mou] Why
two lists?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Mou-net is for postings that would be of =
interest for
serious birder. I post to MOU-Net sightings of unusual =
birds, the
newsletter and meetings of MRVAC (Minnesota River Valley Audubon =
Chapter), and
very little else. I post to MNbird any Mou-net post plus posts =
that might
be of interest to the wider community of birders. For example I =
might
post to MNbird the results of a frog survey and how to recognize the =
calls of
the frogs found. These natural observations would not =
be
welcomed and would be off topic for MOU-net. While some listers =
are put
off by the attempts of the MOU-net to keep the focus narrow and on =
topic, that
is the mission of the list serve. New birders should join =
MN-bird,
which welcomes inexperienced observations and questions. =
The
posts of those birders who choose to join only MOU-net, will be fowarded =
to
MN-bird by monitors who watch for such posts of =
interest.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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on <st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Quigley</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType =
w:st=3D"on">Lake</st1:PlaceType>
in <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Eagan</st1:place></st1:City> <br>
<a href=3D"mailto:sweston2@comcast.net">sweston2@comcast.net</a> =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:mnbird@lists.mnbird.net" =
title=3D"mnbird@lists.mnbird.net">MNbird</a>
; <a href=3D"mailto:mou-net@cbs.umn.edu" =
title=3D"mou-net@cbs.umn.edu">MOU</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday,
March 23, 2005 12:43 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [mou] Why
two lists?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Seems really silly to have =
two lists
and most folks making double posts. Since the double posting seems =
so
regular, the old political split or whatever must be quite stale by =
now.
Is there any good reason to continue double postings? Why not rig =
one
list to be an active standby in case the other one fails? ... or =
make
sure every message gets copied so we only need to see them =
once.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Chuck =
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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