http://www.vireo.acnatsci.org/DVOC/LBBG-mfs/sld029.htm is the URL to check out this slide show. I thought you might all enjoy going through the process of ID'ing the gull on MOU latest good bird seen, based upon this slide show from Vireo, I think it is pretty straight forward. Check it out and let Denny Know what you think it is. Mark Alt