[mou] Fish Crow??
Holly Peirson
hpeirson@pclink.com
Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:12:37 -0500
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I can give you no help on your particular bird, but a note for all…
Later in winter or earlier this spring, I got a call from a person who calls
me regularly with questions about birds. He doesn’t own a computer, so he
calls the MOU RBA hotline every so often, and he sometimes also reports
birds he has found. He is very good at observation, cares more to find out
about the birds he’s seeing than to add to his list, etc.
One day he called me with a pretty darned good description of a Fish Crow,
with the correct song/call also documented (not taped just correctly paid
attention to.) He doesn’t take a bird book into the field with him, but
takes good notes, and always has some interesting bird happening to report
when he calls me. He lives someplace in the Minnetonka/Chaska area.
This report from Earl also makes me wonder about Fish Crows. Once you have
heard one, you can recognize the difference in calls. This time of year
there should not be any juvenile crows around yet… It might be a good bird
to watch and listen for, I’ve heard they are expanding their range.
Holly Peirson
Forest Lake area birder
-----Original Message-----
From: mou-net-admin@cbs.umn.edu [mailto:mou-net-admin@cbs.umn.edu]On Behalf
Of Earl Orf
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 10:50 PM
To: MnBird Listserve; MOU Listserve
Subject: [mou] Fish Crow??
This weekend at our home in Itasca County I heard a crow calling that
sounded exactly like a Fish Crow. I know how improbable this sounds. I am,
however, familiar with the sound of Fish Crows. For the last 5 winters my
wife and I have spent 6 weeks in northern Florida and have heard plenty of
Fish Crows. I also verified it by listening to my Stokes CD’s.
I know that ravens make lots of weird sounds but I saw this bird flying over
our yard about 30 yards overhead and the tail was that of a crow, not a
raven.
Has anyone heard of an American Crow making sounds like that of a Fish Crow?
I don’t have good recording equipment to document what I was hearing and a
picture would do no good because hardly any of us would ID a Fish crow by
sight.
I could use some help on this one.
Thanks, Earl Orf
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can give
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all…<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>La=
ter in
winter or earlier this spring, I got a call from a person who calls me
regularly with questions about birds. He doesn’t own a computer, =
so he calls
the MOU RBA hotline every so often, and he sometimes also reports birds =
he has
found. He is very good at observation, cares more to find out about the =
birds
he’s seeing than to add to his list, etc. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>On=
e day he
called me with a pretty darned good description of a Fish Crow, with the
correct song/call also documented (not taped just correctly paid =
attention to.)
He doesn’t take a bird book into the field with him, but takes =
good notes, and
always has some interesting bird happening to report when he calls me. =
He lives
someplace in the Minnetonka/Chaska area. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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is
report from Earl also makes me wonder about Fish Crows. Once you have =
heard
one, you can recognize the difference in calls. This time of year there =
should
not be any juvenile crows around yet… It might be a good bird to =
watch and listen
for, I’ve heard they are expanding their =
range.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
mou-net-admin@cbs.umn.edu
[mailto:mou-net-admin@cbs.umn.edu]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On =
Behalf
Of </span></b>Earl Orf<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, April 25, =
2004 10:50
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> MnBird Listserve; MOU
Listserve<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [mou] Fish =
Crow??</span></font></p>
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color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>This
weekend at our home in Itasca County I heard a crow calling that sounded
exactly like a Fish Crow. I know how improbable this sounds. =
I am,
however, familiar with the sound of Fish Crows. For the last 5 =
winters my
wife and I have spent 6 weeks in northern Florida and have heard plenty =
of Fish
Crows. I also verified it by listening to my Stokes =
CD’s.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
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face=3DArial><span =
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ont><font
color=3Dblack><span =
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/p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I know
that ravens make lots of weird sounds but I saw this bird flying over =
our yard
about 30 yards overhead and the tail was that of a crow, not a =
raven.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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ont><font
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color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Has
anyone heard of an American Crow making sounds like that of a Fish =
Crow?</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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ont><font
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color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I don’t
have good recording equipment to document what I was hearing and a =
picture
would do no good because hardly any of us would ID a Fish crow by =
sight.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I could
use some help on this one.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
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face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Thanks,
Earl Orf</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
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