[mnbird] Re: [mou] Why two lists?
Chuck Cole
cncole@earthlink.net
Thu, 24 Mar 2005 02:29:50 -0600
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That snotty "go elsewhere welcome" needs to be posted explicitly on the MOU list web site if it's the policy of the MOU list. That
is not what the list intro actually requires or directs at present. Frogs would be off-topic on each of these two bird lists.
Monitors doing some forwarding is repugnant, IMHO. Some would say that violates some copyright regulations concerning author's
rights as well.
Chuck
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From: mnbird-admin@lists.mnbird.net [mailto:mnbird-admin@lists.mnbird.net]On Behalf Of Steve Weston
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:57 AM
To: cncole@earthlink.net; MNbird
Subject: [mnbird] Re: [mou] Why two lists?
Mou-net is for postings that would be of interest for serious birder. I post to MOU-Net sightings of unusual birds, the
newsletter and meetings of MRVAC (Minnesota River Valley Audubon Chapter), and very little else. I post to MNbird any Mou-net post
plus posts that might be of interest to the wider community of birders. For example I might post to MNbird the results of a frog
survey and how to recognize the calls of the frogs found. These natural observations would not be welcomed and would be off topic
for MOU-net. While some listers are put off by the attempts of the MOU-net to keep the focus narrow and on topic, that is the
mission of the list serve. New birders should join MN-bird, which welcomes inexperienced observations and questions. The posts of
those birders who choose to join only MOU-net, will be fowarded to MN-bird by monitors who watch for such posts of interest.
Steve Weston on Quigley Lake in Eagan
sweston2@comcast.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Cole
To: MNbird ; MOU
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:43 AM
Subject: [mou] Why two lists?
Seems really silly to have two lists and most folks making double posts. Since the double posting seems so regular, the old
political split or whatever must be quite stale by now. Is there any good reason to continue double postings? Why not rig one list
to be an active standby in case the other one fails? ... or make sure every message gets copied so we only need to see them once.
Chuck
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Behalf Of </B>Steve Weston<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 24, 2005 =
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<DIV>Mou-net is for postings that would be of interest for serious=20
birder. I post to MOU-Net sightings of unusual birds, the=20
newsletter and meetings of MRVAC (Minnesota River Valley Audubon =
Chapter), and=20
very little else. I post to MNbird any Mou-net post plus posts =
that=20
might be of interest to the wider community of birders. For =
example I=20
might post to MNbird the results of a frog survey and how to recognize =
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calls of the frogs found. These natural observations =
would=20
not be welcomed and would be off topic for MOU-net. While some =
listers=20
are put off by the attempts of the MOU-net to keep the focus narrow =
and on=20
topic, that is the mission of the list serve. New birders=20
should join MN-bird, which welcomes inexperienced =
observations=20
and questions. The posts of those birders who choose to =
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MOU-net, will be fowarded to MN-bird by monitors who watch for =
such posts=20
of interest.</DIV>
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<DIV>Steve Weston on Quigley Lake in Eagan <BR><A=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D879150905-23032005><FONT face=3DArial>Seems =
really silly to=20
have two lists and most folks making double posts. Since the =
double=20
posting seems so regular, the old political split or whatever must =
be quite=20
stale by now. Is there any good reason to continue double=20
postings? Why not rig one list to be an active standby in case =
the=20
other one fails? ... or make sure every message gets copied so =
we only=20
need to see them once.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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