[mou] Today and tomorrow
Steve Morrison
SMORRISON@ucare.org
Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:04:10 -0600
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Mike doesn't know me but since this was all made public I feel it's okay
to comment. Ban me if you will.
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Ok, yeah Mike probably overreacted by threatening to step down and Mark
Alt probably overreacted by delivering his ultimatum. I think things
could have been dealt with in a manner where the MOU didn't lose a
dedicated volunteer with some chutzpah and Mike didn't lose one (I
assume fun) outlet for his dedication to MN birding.
=20
This got me to thinking about the MOU and my opinions concerning it. As
is the case with any organization It does some things well and others
not so well. =20
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The good things include:
* The basic birding info and a superb website
* An overall good "rare" bird list serve (see below)
* Decent selection of field trips
* Good publications
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The poor things include:
=20
* Handling it's image ( sorry people it comes off as a rather
stodgy, corporate, elitist organization) Hey if I want to worry about
protocol all the time I can go to work.
* Being accepting of and encouraging non-expert birders (I've
heard people are reluctant to post as they are unsure of the worthiness
of their sighting).
* Being essentially a non-voice in the conservation arena- (The
MOU doesn't have to and doesn't even want to be another Audubon but
glorifying driving buku miles to see buku birds in one year while being
silent on so many other things affecting MN birds is in my view
ethically questionable)
=20
So I am disappointed because I think the MOU lost a good enthusiastic
trip leader. I am also disappointed about the way leadership allegedly
handled things. The MOU isn't corporate America and things would be
better if people put things in perspective, talked and patched things
up. =20
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Steve Morrison
________________________________
From: mou-net-admin@cbs.umn.edu [mailto:mou-net-admin@cbs.umn.edu] On
Behalf Of jbaumann@usfamily.net
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:31 AM
To: MOU-Net
Subject: Re: [mou] Today and tomorrow
I think BOTH of you are behaving rather childishly. If Mark is
threatened by Mike's threat, you are no different than two boys on a
playground - one blustering and one bullying - all because they can.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mike Hendrickson <mailto:smithville4@charter.net> =20
To: MOU-Net <mailto:mou-net@cbs.umn.edu> =20
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:54 AM
Subject: [mou] Today and tomorrow
Today I stood up for a friend name Leo Lantz who was banned from
the MOU-Net listserv for an honest mistake he made. Leo since been
added back on the listserv and Leo credited me for doing so. The MOU
president Mark Alt called me this morning and ask that I step down as
the MOU field trip position because I threaten to quit if Leo did not
get apology and put back on the listserv. I know that was immature of me
in doing so but I did not want to be part of an organization that
refuses to forgive people over simple mistakes such as the one Leo
committed. Leo nor should anyone be place on a moderator's list because
the poster accidentally sent a non bird topic to the listserv.=20
=20
I refused to quit and Mark gave me two options 1. go thru a
transition and step down quietly or 2) be immediately released. I told
Mark " I am not quitting". So Mark Alt told me he is going to approach
the MOU board an advise them to remove me from my position. A few
minutes ago Mark Alt told me tonight he has basically removed me from my
position and as president he can do so - I guess.
=20
So I am not the MOU field trip chairman anymore. Remember 3 or
4 years ago all the MOU trips I created and how happy everyone was with
these trips? All this was taken away from me because I stood up for a
friend. Some say I am to emotional or to quick with my anger. Maybe
they are right about that. I defend my friends, I am not afraid to speak
out on matters that mean a lot to me such as the logging going on in Sax
Zim Bog. I am not afraid to speak out when others are spinning the
truth. I call a spade a spade when I see one! That is who I am. I got
some emails today encouraging me to hang in there and some agreeing with
me. I got an email from Rick Hoyme telling me to "grow up". Maybe so
but not defending a friend who made an honest mistake and standing by
doing nothing is more grown up? Should I act childish and rant and rave
to everyone about all the logging going on in Sax Zim Bog or should act
mature or " grown up" and hush up about what is going up there?
=20
What now?
=20
The Lake Superior Pelagic Trips belong to me and I will continue
to run these trips. Mark Alt during our phone conversation agree that
if I get removed from the board these trips are mind to run and to
organized. All other trips are up in the air and I think Al Shirmacher
is going to replace me. Al is a great guy and should do a great job for
the MOU and I ask that you all support him if he is asked by Mark Alt to
take that position. Mark was already talking to Al about field trips
after he phoned me and notified my future with the MOU.
=20
Me? Going to do what some of my critics have been telling me
-- " disappear" or " go away" and that is what I am going to do.
=20
=20
Michael Hendrickson
Duluth, Minnesota
Minnesota Birding Treks
http://webpages.charter.net/mmhendrickson/
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Mike=20
doesn't know me but since this was all made public I feel it's okay =
to=20
comment. Ban me if you will.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Ok,=20
yeah <SPAN class=3D376034415-24022006>Mike</SPAN> probably =
overreacted by=20
threatening to step down and Mark Alt <SPAN=20
class=3D376034415-24022006>probably </SPAN>overreacted by delivering his =
ultimatum. I think things could have been dealt with in a manner =
where the=20
MOU didn't lose a dedicated volunteer with some chutzpah and <SPAN=20
class=3D376034415-24022006>Mike </SPAN>didn't lose one <SPAN=20
class=3D376034415-24022006>(I assume fun) </SPAN>outlet for <SPAN=20
class=3D376034415-24022006>his </SPAN>dedication to MN=20
birding.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><SPAN class=3D376034415-24022006>This got me to thinking about=20
the </SPAN>MOU <SPAN class=3D376034415-24022006>and my =
opinions=20
concerning it. As is the case with any organization It does some =
things=20
well and oth</SPAN>ers not so well. =
</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>The=20
g<SPAN class=3D376034415-24022006>ood</SPAN> things =
include:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<UL>
<LI><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>The=20
basic birding info and a superb website</FONT></SPAN></LI>
<LI><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2> An overall good "rare" bird list serve (see=20
below)</FONT></SPAN></LI>
<LI><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2> Decent selection of field trips</FONT></SPAN></LI>
<LI><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><SPAN =
class=3D376034415-24022006><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Good =
publications</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></LI></UL>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>The=20
poor things include:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<UL>
<LI><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Handling it's image ( sorry people it comes off =
as a rather=20
stodgy, corporate, elitist organization) Hey if I want to =
worry=20
about protocol all the time I can go to work.</FONT></SPAN></LI>
<LI><SPAN class=3D527013614-24022006><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Being=20
accepting of and encouraging non-expert birders (I've heard people are =
reluctant to post as <SPAN class=3D376034415-24022006>they=20
</SPAN>are unsure of the worthiness of their=20
sighting).</FONT></SPAN></LI>
<LI><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D527013614-24022006>Being=20
essentially a non-voice in the conservation arena- (The MOU =
doesn't have=20
to and doesn't even want to be another Audubon but glorifying =
driving=20
buku miles to see buku birds in one year while being silent on =
so many=20
other things affecting MN birds is in my view ethically=20
questionable)</SPAN></FONT></LI></UL>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D527013614-24022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D527013614-24022006>So I=20
am disappointed because I think the MOU lost a good enthusiastic =
trip=20
leader. I am also disappointed about the way leadership =
allegedly=20
handled things. The MOU isn't corporate America and =
things would=20
be better if people put things in perspective, talked and patched =
things=20
up. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D527013614-24022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D527013614-24022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D527013614-24022006><SPAN=20
class=3D376034415-24022006>Steve =
Morrison</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> mou-net-admin@cbs.umn.edu=20
[mailto:mou-net-admin@cbs.umn.edu] <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>jbaumann@usfamily.net<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 24, 2006 8:31 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B> MOU-Net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [mou] Today and=20
tomorrow<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>I think BOTH of you are behaving rather childishly. If =
Mark is=20
threatened by Mike's threat, you are no different than two boys on a =
playground=20
- one blustering and one bullying - all because <STRONG>they =
can</STRONG>.</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dsmithville4@charter.net =
href=3D"mailto:smithville4@charter.net">Mike=20
Hendrickson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmou-net@cbs.umn.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:mou-net@cbs.umn.edu">MOU-Net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 24, 2006 =
12:54=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [mou] Today and =
tomorrow</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Today I stood up for a =
friend name Leo=20
Lantz who was banned from the MOU-Net listserv for an honest mistake =
he=20
made. Leo since been added back on the listserv and Leo credited =
me for=20
doing so. The MOU president Mark Alt called me this morning and =
ask that=20
I step down as the MOU field trip position because I threaten to quit =
if Leo=20
did not get apology and put back on the listserv. I know that was =
immature of=20
me in doing so but I did not want to be part of an organization that =
refuses=20
to forgive people over simple mistakes such as the one Leo =
committed. =20
Leo nor should anyone be place on a moderator's list because the=20
poster accidentally sent a non bird topic to the=20
listserv. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I refused to quit and Mark =
gave me two=20
options 1. go thru a transition and step down quietly or 2) be =
immediately=20
released. I told Mark " I am not quitting". So Mark =
Alt told me he=20
is going to approach the MOU board an advise them to remove me =
from my=20
position. A few minutes ago Mark Alt told me tonight he=20
has basically removed me from my position and =
as president he=20
can do so - I guess.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>So I am not the MOU =
field trip=20
chairman anymore. Remember 3 or 4 years ago all the MOU trips I =
created=20
and how happy everyone was with these trips? All this was taken =
away=20
from me because I stood up for a friend. Some say I am to =
emotional=20
or to quick with my anger. Maybe they are right about =
that. I=20
defend my friends, I am not afraid to speak out on matters that =
mean a=20
lot to me such as the logging going on in Sax Zim Bog. I am not =
afraid=20
to speak out when others are spinning the truth. I call a spade =
a spade=20
when I see one! That is who I am. I got some emails =
today=20
encouraging me to hang in there and some agreeing with me. I got =
an=20
email from Rick Hoyme telling me to "grow up". Maybe so =
but not=20
defending a friend who made an honest mistake and standing by =
doing=20
nothing is more grown up? Should I act childish and rant =
and=20
rave to everyone about all the logging going on in Sax Zim Bog or =
should=20
act mature or " grown up" and hush up about what is going up=20
there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>What now?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>The Lake Superior Pelagic=20
Trips belong to me and I will continue to run these =
trips. =20
Mark Alt during our phone conversation agree that if I get =
removed from=20
the board these trips are mind to run and to organized. All =
other=20
trips are up in the air and I think Al Shirmacher is going to replace=20
me. Al is a great guy and should do a great job for the MOU and =
I ask=20
that you all support him if he is asked by Mark Alt to take that=20
position. Mark was already talking to Al about field trips after he =
phoned me=20
and notified my future with the MOU.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2> Me? Going to do =
what some=20
of my critics have been telling me -- " disappear" or " go away" and =
that is=20
what I am going to do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Michael =
Hendrickson<BR>Duluth,=20
Minnesota<BR>Minnesota Birding Treks<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://webpages.charter.net/mmhendrickson/">http://webpages.chart=
er.net/mmhendrickson/</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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